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luke9511 · Oct 05, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

hello everyone, first post here and enjoying the site alot, lots of info which is what i need, basicly i got a warrior/monk and want to make him into a runner to help me make some extra money to help out my guild, anyone type of run, from ascalon to yaks bend or to where ever, but i just want some advice on what i should my skills be set too and what armor i need etc, here is a current list of armor, shield and where my skill points are, if i need to get different armor please let me know, thanks in advance for any help/adivce.

X El Queso Grande X · Oct 05, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

From experience, I know that for armor, Gladiator's works great. Since the energy bonus doesn't come with the armor, you should try and put a radiant insignia on each piece. Attunement runes also work because they give 2 energy for each piece instead of 3 for the chest, 2 for leggings, etc. They're also cheaper than radiant insignias as far as I know. Often times, you'll run into enchant removal and hex spells more than physical damage when running, especially from Ascalon to Yak's. If you put an superior absorpbtion rune on the chest and leggings, that'll help. 20 base energy is hard to work with especially if you're running enchantments like Mending and Holy Veil.

For equipment, it's usually best to have an AL 16 shield with +45 health while enchanted or in a stance and reduce dmg by 2. There are a few collectors that give these ones; there's one outside of Thirsty River that'll give you a stance shield for 2 Bleached Carapaces. For a sword/axe, you'll probably want to go with one that gives +5 energy. You don't need any points in axe mastery, unless you're concerned you'll get stuck between monsters.

Try and put as many points into strength and tactics/healing prayers. The general running setup includes skills like Balanced Stance (to counter knockdown), Charge, Sprint, Holy Veil, Mending, and others depending on which campaigns you have. If you do have Nightfall though, Charging Strike is a great elite running skill, because it has a really short recharge time. Same goes for Signet of Stamina; it's like Endure Pain, but it's permanent (unless you attack).

I think that's about it. ^_^' Hope this helps, and gl running.

luke9511 · Oct 05, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

for right now i do not have nightfall and i just recently got factions is there anything from factions that may help any and thanks for the advice i will look into the stuff you said once i have the time

iridescentfyre · Oct 05, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

You seem too concerned about Physical damage with all of those Knight Insignia. You have 116 AL vs physical damage already, it will almost never be the reason you die while running. Things like degen and hexes will be. I recommend a Lieutenent's insignia somewhere in there, preferably on the helmet (you only need one!). For a runner, a Major Axe rune is a waste of valuable health. Ideally, you won't use the exact same rune and insignia setup for running as you use for fighting... but personally, I only need to swap out my helmet for the most part, so I'm not stuck with Superior Tactics and a Lieutenant's insignia all the time.

For equipment, you want a shield that gives you +health and (probably) -2 (in stance), and any one-handed weapon with +5 energy and +30hp.

For running you want to max Tactics. Strength sucks. Your self-heal is in Tactics (since you aren't using Mending, of course O_o) and so is "Charge!", "Shields Up!" and a bunch of other useful running skills.

Joshgt2 · Oct 05, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08

If your looking for a basic run from Ascolon to Yak's... Then you won't really need much on ya. I would first go with Sprint and "Charge!" as the running skills since you don't have Nightfall. If you don't have at least "Charge!" then I would go for that one first. Since you are a Wammo, then I would add Smite Hex, Holy Veil, Purge Conditions, and Healing Signet for the conditions, hexes, and healing. Balanced Stance would be needed due to the Hydras I believe that are there once you leave Piken. If you have anything else left then go with "I Will Survive!" or something to help things out. "Shields Up!" is also another good one to pick as well for that type of run.

luke9511 · Oct 05, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Joshgt2

If your looking for a basic run from Ascolon to Yak's... Then you won't really need much on ya. I would first go with Sprint and "Charge!" as the running skills since you don't have Nightfall. If you don't have at least "Charge!" then I would go for that one first. Since you are a Wammo, then I would add Smite Hex, Holy Veil, Purge Conditions, and Healing Signet for the conditions, hexes, and healing. Balanced Stance would be needed due to the Hydras I believe that are there once you leave Piken. If you have anything else left then go with "I Will Survive!" or something to help things out. "Shields Up!" is also another good one to pick as well for that type of run.

i figured i would start out small and work my way on up so that i can get the feel for it etc, also where would i get charge, as thats the only skill i have been wanting to get just havent been able too, also where do i get Insignias? i have never heard of them before

Sir Pandra Pierva · Oct 05, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Just grab the basic forge runner from pvx. if it's stil lthere

iridescentfyre · Oct 05, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by luke9511

also where do i get Insignias? i have never heard of them before

Rune Trader. Since Nightfall came out, Insignia are now the "prefix" upgrade for armor, in all campaigns.

luke9511 · Oct 05, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

Just grab the basic forge runner from pvx. if it's stil lthere

this could work just gotta find a skill to replace the one nightfall skill http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...d_Forge_Runner

EDIT: ok after spending almost all of my savings this is what i have, please note that i still have enough left to change anything you think i should change.

luke9511 · Oct 06, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49

whats a good build for droks run?

X El Queso Grande X · Oct 07, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...d_Forge_Runner

luke9511 · Oct 09, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by X El Queso Grande X

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...d_Forge_Runner

question about that build, what would be a good replacement for Signet of Stamina? cause i dont have nightfall and probably wont get it til christmas

Age · Oct 09, 2007, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Here is a thread on the old build.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=114090

Since you don't have NF you can and alway use endure pain to raise your health points.You want maximum tactics and strength for skill like endure and sprint if you don't have charge sprint is ok just make sure you got balanced stance to prevent knockdown and yes it is best to have all radiant insignias but knights will do or even dreadnaughts.It is best to get crimson carpace shield outside of Camp Rankor to prevent aid in hexs.
It is most important to have something to remove conditions and hexes.The running is very simple other than dealing with conditions and hexes.

Sheriff · Oct 09, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

"I am unstoppable!", Norn shout, is great for running as it avoids/removes cripple and knockdown

There's also a dwarf skill that extends stances, which is nice for runners.

For hexes, one lieutenant's insignia is handy.

iridescentfyre · Oct 09, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

There's not a whole lot of knockdowns between Ascalon and Lion's Arch that you can't simply outrun. Namely those from the Hydra and Stone Summit Herders. For this run, waste of a skill slot to take Balanced Stance. "I Am Unstoppable!" might be nice since those Summit Rangers use Pin Down.

luke9511 · Oct 09, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

There's not a whole lot of knockdowns between Ascalon and Lion's Arch that you can't simply outrun. Namely those from the Hydra and Stone Summit Herders. For this run, waste of a skill slot to take Balanced Stance. "I Am Unstoppable!" might be nice since those Summit Rangers use Pin Down.

yeah i hate the rangers ever since i started this thread and got my first build i have been running people from yaks to LA and the first part with the summit rangers are what get me and the ice golems with their ice freeze

EDIT: forgot to say i cant use or get the skill "I am unstoppable!" as i dont have eye of the north

Age · Oct 10, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Here is the very first Bold Forge Runner as the PvXWiki has the updated version.This is Prophecies only skills.Bold Forge Runner 1Like I said if you don't have Charge don't worry about it as sprint will do just fine for short runs.The thing as I consider myself a pro runner is how competive it can be when it comes to pricing you have to meet or beat them not in the price but time.Running is very competive like any business.
Running sometimes is not as profitable as farming the UW or FoW for some good drops or chest farming.It is fun to run even solo.That is the Original Bold Forge Runner and it should still be in the wiki.

luke9511 · Oct 10, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

i think since cause i got crappy armor and i dont have nightfall or eye of the north, so i cant get skills from there, that thats the reason why im not doing so well with the droks run, cause the mind freeze is what slowing me down and getting me killed

Age · Oct 10, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

You want to precast holy veil or we monks call it preveil and then remove it and you don't have crappy armour if you replaced your insignias and the old build is still possible but the Droks Run take a lot of skill and patients it is not to be taken lightly even I can't do it yet.

I run most all other places of the game especially the Desert and it pays the same for the tour and then there is Sanctum Cay Runs and ToA.You don't need to run Droks to make some money from running just about any other place will do.

Holy Veil will remove mind freeze and possibly remove hex can.

luke9511 · Oct 10, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Age

You want to precast holy veil or we monks call it preveil and then remove it and you don't have crappy armour if you replaced your insignias and the old build is still possible but the Droks Run take a lot of skill and patients it is not to be taken lightly even I can't do it yet.

I run most all other places of the game especially the Desert and it pays the same for the tour and then there is Sanctum Cay Runs and ToA.You don't need to run Droks to make some money from running just about any other place will do.

Holy Veil will remove mind freeze and possibly remove hex can.

im still trying as i dont give up to easily :P also i got my knights templar armor when they were still selling it in droks before the insignias were put in the game, remove hex works but as soon as its cast and the hex is gone is already back on me